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Tumblr somehow became a cozy corner compared to everywhere else. It's surprising, but pleasantly so.
how the ghost tumblr community be while the ghost twitter & tiktok implode
I finished the album and guys...I had a full on orgasm at Umbra. HOLY SHIT! Every single song had that beautiful 80s sound that I adore and Umbra used it in such a way that it got a reaction out of me that I never thought a song could.
Toby is just shitposting at this point.
WHAT THE HELL IS SHE DOING
[KARAOKE] Ghost ONLY Karaoke
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Oh my God! My oshi is doing Ghost karaoke!
At this point, I think we can just go with our own interpretations of the story because of how loose it is. In the end, it's the music that truly matters. I would love a more coherent story, of course, but I'm not going to lose sleep over this anymore. I'm satisfied with just enjoying the music and concerts now. Although, it is still sad that I will never see Terzo having any influence. At least we got quite a few Meliora songs on the tour set list. Maybe Papa V Perpetua looked up to Terzo and wants to subtly carry on his legacy?
I think a retcon with four brothers is a bad plot decision, and here's why.
1. In the Meliora era, Nihil was introduced as the father of the other Papas, and that's important for many reasons. Tobias himself repeatedly emphasized that Terzo and Secondo had a common father but different mothers, and presented this as an essential characteristic. Nihil he referred to as "the bigger fish in the sea." Terzo once even promised that sooner or later we would see his father - and so it turned out.
2. The subject of Meliora is a world without God. Tobias described it as a pre-apocalyptic world. It ends with the end of civilization when God returns and punishes humanity for its complacency. The last song of the era, "Bible," tells how the people of Babylon forgot about God and he unleashed the world in his wrath. The next album, Prequelle, is a logical extension of this - it's about the return of God, who brings punishment (plague) upon mankind. Considering this, metaphorically Nihil is the very God-father who comes to "close the party".
3. By coming on stage, Nihil is saying that a new Middle Ages is coming. His return symbolizes the rolling back of political systems to more archaic ideas and ways of government (I guess I don't need to tell what from real life that looks like). Modernization is replaced by conservatism. Democracy is replaced by more rigid and authoritarian forms of rule. The older generation here symbolizes conservative ideas, while the younger generation symbolizes aspirations for the future.
4. Terzo's image is largely based on the image of Lucifer, there are many references to that. Lucifer was thrown out of heaven by God, his father. It makes sense that Terzo is also cast down by his father, Nihil.
The Meliora - Prequel system worked fine until they needed to change key elements for some reason. I hope TF scraps this idea, because obviously it offers a bad alternative to a good story.
Yeah, this sounds like it makes the most sense, to me at least. There was no way that Primo could be younger than Papa Nihil. If I remember correctly, in an interview several years ago (I don't remember if it was with Tobias as himself or as Special Ghoul), Primo was somewhere in his 80s when he was the frontman (2010-2012). And since Nihil admitted to being just shy of 80 years old when he died (2020) in RHRN, that means that Primo would have been roughly 10 years older (more or less) than Nihil.
This is my attempt at making sense of the recent revelations of the Ghost Family tree.
We now know for certain that Emeritus I was Nihil’s brother, based on what we have heard from the London Ritual, and the comic reveals that this brother has had children. And while people think the two babies shown in the Sister Imperator comic are Secundo and Terzo, I personally think they are Primo’s illegitimate sons, and perhaps future papas that may come after Perpetua’s time in the spotlight comes to an end.
As for Secundo and Terzo? Well I believe they are Nihil’s sons. The two were born three months from each other, and if they were indeed brothers to Nihil, they definetly would have been clued in the comic like Primo was. And they have been described been very much younger than Primo. And let’s be honest, Primo looked wayyy too old to be the brother of Secundo and Terzo.
That’s just me, though. I’m still trying to wrap my head around this new information because I was so used to the idea of Primo being a son of Nihil like the others. More information may come in the fallowing months that may make this post completely off the mark.
Poor baby noooooo!😭😭
I’m seeing multiple reports about Papa V Perpetua having a physical reaction to the scripture being recited in Satanized, as well as the BLASPHEMY! and HERESY! chanting.
He appears to cower, cover his head/ears and shake his head like he is trying to block the words out.
And you know I’m latching onto that! I have saddled him with “grew up in a Catholic setting as the actual Anti-Christ” tragic backstory, as I’m sure multiple people also have.
I WAS RIGHT! PRIMO IS NIHIL'S BROTHER! YES!!!!
THOUGHTS FROM GHOST’S LONDON SHOW IN NO ORDER AAAA:
The way when they were played Satanised he was clutching his head and swaying when the chanting happened!
HE DID SHY MUMMY THRUSTS THEN A BIG ONE.
Talked about “my uncle” (Primo) playing Camden 15 years ago and when I tell you I sobbed!
Had a very in and out Copia/Terzo accent that was so hot.
Lots of GROWLS. Man was growling and speaking rumbly!
he also said “do you want an Easter egg up the Keister. A Keister egg” ASDFGGH.
When we were asking for more songs he told us very snappy but playfully to “shut up” and SHUSHED us.
He was shy, bit snappy and quieter. He yapped a little but not much. He seems a little reserved and when he was moving around the stage he was less bouncy than Copia but still lively!
IF ANYONE WANTS TO ADD PLEASE FEEL FREE!
I am so glad I got upper level seats.
Did bro even wear this fit? Guys I need to know
Guysguysguysguysguysguys
HE SMILED
*whimpering, whining noises*
You know, I thought something about this image seemed familiar.
Well shit.
LOL. LMAO even.
COPIA IS BIG MAD LOL.
The V in papa V perpetua stands for virgin
This may be the horny talking, but I think Papa V is going to be very shy at first. UGH! He's so cute! I want to---just---do something that would make him flustered! I can't wait for fanart like this guys!
It's quite interesting how Respite on the Spitalfields was the last song on the Impera album, and Peacefield is the first song on the Skeletá album. As if there is a story being told within these songs and Peacefield is a continuation of it.
Someone analyze the song titles 🥲🥲
The birth of a new god!🙏🏻
OH MY GOSH!!
THEY LOOK INCREDIBLE!!
I'm so excited to hear his clearer vocals and facial expressions on stage! We can actually see him smile now!
Let us please remember
That if the new mask is in fact a Half
that we will be thrilled at how clear the new vocals will be
we will be supportive of how the design choice also allows an alleviation from TF’s growing claustrophobia via the old masks
and we will be supportive of our lovely frontman that has carried his own hangups and insecurities as an artist like a fucking champ through a million albums and performances
and we cannot wait to see this little freak in the flesh
Ghesties? What does this mean? It scares me.
I love this art, and I love the new album! So gorgeous! I love the line work. It looks so similar to the official art in the cd books.
Peacefield took me a second, but it’s fine because so did Lachryma- and I love that song so much! So Peacefield until Satanized is great, but the next two are kind of hit or miss for me. Cenotaph until the end is incredible and fabulous. I knew I would adore ‘marks of the evil one’ just from the title😂. I am so excited for my cd to arrive!
happy skeleta day 💜
"F*cking V"
A Different spin on an older idea (included below the cut).
The last chapter gave me thoughts about Copia's character arc, in so far as the chapters have character arcs. He seems to be going more villainous.
Anyway I finished a thing. Not entirely happy with it but I've been really struggling with art block as of late so getting anything done feels like an achievement!
The purple ones must stick together.
obsessed with the fact that skeletour's setlist has EIGHT meliora's songs
Cowbell ghoul!?! I was literally joking this morning about brining them back! Success.
Monstrance clock, my beloved!
I’m so excited for the new album!!! And I can’t wait to see more videos and photos on the instagram. I can’t wait to see Perry smile more!🖤🖤🖤
Freaking out about the Skeletour show in Glasgow
Peacefield is a Banger
The new stage is phenomenal, it just keeps getting BIGGER. first the curtain with giant rips in then the new stage with stone plinths for the ghouls and lights everywhere including under the drum riser. Then the stony walls fell down to reveal the usual stained glass windows and then the stone archways fell down and nearly took out Mountain. Then it was revealed that it was actually a massive LED screen
I got so excited that they were playing Majesty that I didn't immediately notice he was FUCKING FLYING. My sister was like omg flying and I was like omg Majesty and then we were both like OMG HIS MAJESTY
I started noticing the double kick drum during Ritual and after. I don't know enough about drums to say what was different it just was more idk
We were in the gods so we couldn't fully appreciate the GIANT MOVING truss grucifix of moving lights but she's a work of art. We could see the labels in the trucks as we left and they had a whole truck just for floor lights (the under drum riser lights are gorgeous) and they had at least 3 more for lights. No idea how to pack a giant moving rus
Lost my shit when they started playing Umbra I've been waiting fucking months to hear more than the opening bars!! I cannot wait to hear it again properly (it's only 9 days not that I'm counting)
Fucking cowbell ghoul is back for Umbra did not see that coming
Monstrance Clock is back too I didn't see that coming either and I'm so happy!!!! And the little smirk he did when he got to say "conclusively, I give you Monstrance Clock" for the second time in years, knowing we were about to lose our collective shit, was yet another wonder of no mask papa
We got sad about it ending and he was "you can go out and tell everyone about the amazing time that you had. Or at least you can tell everyone about the amazing time that I had"
He got his I/we/they/him mixed up which is always funny like "back at the assembly where we, no they, well I suppose I'm part of it now so we, and I thought, no they thought-"
He name dropped The Cathouse but didn't know if it was still running and then was like "I know a lot about the past, but I don't know much about the future" and then straight into The Future is a Foreign Land. Musical theatre levels of speech into song and he said "this is a song my dad used to sing to me" and they changed it to 2034 (I had wondered if they were going to change it to 2025 and have a new rhyme but that works)
There was a delay letting people in and my theatre brain wants to know what technical issue stopped them opening the house?? Was he stuck in the air?? Was the moving grucifix of moving lights refusing to move?? Did the LED screen decide not today satan ??
*sobbing* He’s so gorgeous! Just beautiful😭
OH HES FUCKING SMILING IM SO COOKED.
God it’s such a uniquely Ghost fan experience to be excited to see your frontman’s lips move for the first time.
I loved the plushia flower arrangement - I need to get my hands on one of those things…
COPIA: DO YOU SEE THIS SHIT PLUSHIA !
I'm laicized
@ink-and-dagger and I speculating before the Satanized drop…
Emotional at work and probably (most definitely) way too deep into this whole thing, but... Papa V seems a lot like Tobias making peace with the past and the unpleasant things (lawsuit, near failure of the project therefore) in the past.
Where Copia was initially the anger, spite and disappointment he felt, until he grew on him and turned into something/someone so positive and warm - a really wonderful turn and message in itself -, putting a very harsh end to the previous era(s), implementing a lot of new visuals... Papa V does the opposite.
We get Primos glittery robe front, Secondos staff in the artwork, Terzos purple and claws (and parts of the face paint) and Copias chest jewelry and cape style.
It feels like Tobias made peace with it and is, kind of, reclaiming these parts? And honoring the past Papas in a wonderful (and super cunty) way.
And I absolutely love it.
(again, I'm probably reading way too much into it, sue me, I'm emotional about my Swedish satanic comfort band)
I choose to believe this was intentional - it’s too funny not to be 😂. We’re definitely in good hands, Perry is as much a dork as the other four papas.
Funny story. If you misremember the number for the Corinthian in the Satanized video as Corinthian 16:9 instead of 6:19 you get this:
"For a great door and effectual is opened unto me, and there are many adversaries."
Which is really funny because it's about a door the thing Papa V Perpetua was unable to get open at first.
Ah fuck. It’s satani-z-ed, not satani-s-ed. Damn Australian English autocorrect. I knew it was with a z too, and I still posted it. Ah well.
GHOST FANDOM HOW THE FUCK ARE WE FEELING TONIGHT????!